That was Barksdale. He's actually in the National Honor Society, an early graduate, and has a 3.5 gpa. I'd chalk that up more to nervousness of being on TV.
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That was Barksdale. He's actually in the National Honor Society, an early graduate, and has a 3.5 gpa. I'd chalk that up more to nervousness of being on TV.
Was he the big lineman? I flipped over as they were going to commercial showing someone putting on a LSU hat.
Yep.
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Have you guys figured out now that LSU makes FSU look like Harvard. That one dude declared today that he was going to "the university of LSU" I about fell outta my chair. That school has no academic standards whatsoever.
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Hey man, you know all of LSU's standards got washed away by Katrina, and that they would be in a lot better shape had FEMA, Mike Brown, and W acted faster to help them. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Comparing Sean Glennon to Other First-Year Starters
Obviously one of the biggest topics on the TSL message boards since the conclusion of the Chick-fil-A Bowl has been the play of first-year starting quarterback Sean Glennon. After gradually winning over much of the fan base down the stretch in the regular season, Glennon now finds himself back in the doghouse amongst many Tech fans following his four turnovers in the fourth quarter against Georgia.
When the season began, everyone knew the offense would struggle. The offensive line was not going to be very good, and Glennon would be a downgrade from Marcus Vick. Glennon looked good at times (Wake Forest) and very bad at times (Georgia).
Glennon is the ninth first-year, full-time starter under Frank Beamer. How does he stack up to the previous eight?
Virginia Tech First-Year Starters at Quarterback
Name Year Comp. Att. Pct Yards TDs INTs Record
Furrer 1988 128 279 45.9% 1384 6 16 3-8
DeShazo 1992 101 215 47.0% 1504 12 11 2-8-1
Druckenmiller 1995 151 294 51.4% 2103 14 11 10-2
Clark 1997 110 192 57.3% 1476 10 3 7-5
Mi Vick 1999 90 152 59.2% 1840 12 5 11-1
Noel 2001 146 254 57.5% 1826 16 11 8-4
Randall 2002 158 248 63.7% 2134 12 11 10-4
Ma Vick 2005 177 289 61.2% 2393 17 10 11-2
Glennon 2006 170 302 56.3% 2191 11 11 10-3
Average 136.8 247.2 55.5% 1872.3 12.2 9.9
Interesting stats, and in some cases, surprising. For example, Sean Glennon threw 302 passes, the most of any other first-year starter. Granted only Randall and Marcus Vick also played in 13 games in their first year as a starter (bowl games were not counted in final stats until the 2002 season), but Maurice DeShazo, Al Clark and Michael Mick wouldn't have reached that number with a couple of extra games, and Grant Noel probably wouldn't have either.
Glennon's completion percentage is also slightly higher than the average for first-year starters. But that average is held down by Will Furrer, Maurice DeShazo and Jim Druckenmiller, who had very low completion percentages in their first seasons starting. Glennon's 56.3% completion percentage is the lowest since Jim Druckenmiller's 51.4% in 1995.
It appears that amongst VT's first-year starters, 11 is the magic number. Five of the nine players on the list above have thrown 11 interceptions in their first year as a starter. From that standpoint, Glennon actually did a pretty good job. 11 picks is not an extremely high number, and he threw more passes than any other player on the list above. So from an interception standpoint, Glennon did a pretty good job this season, except for the Chick-fil-A Bowl.
One thing Glennon did not do is generate a lot of touchdowns. His 11 touchdown passes were the fewest since Al Clark in 1997, and Clark spent a good portion of that season hurt. Clark also countered his low number of touchdowns by throwing just three interceptions.
It's a matter of opinion as to how to rank these quarterbacks as first-year starters. In case you're having trouble deciding, here's a mathematical formula that could help you decide. Each quarterback is ranked in completion percentage, yards per attempt, attempts per touchdown, attempts per interception, winning percentage and touchdown to interception ration. Players are not ranked based on total passing yards, total touchdowns and total interceptions because not all players played in the same amount of games.
Rating the First-Year Starters
Name Pct.
Rank Yds/Att. Att/ TD Att/INT Winning
Pct. TD/INT
Ratio Average
Rank
Michael Vick
3 1 1 2 1 2 1.67
Marcus Vick
2 3 3 3 2 3 2.67
Al Clark
5 4 5 1 7 1 3.83
Bryan Randall
1 2 6 7 5 6 4.50
Grant Noel
4 6 2 6 6 4 4.67
Jim Druckenmiller
7 7 7 5 3 5 5.67
Sean Glenoon
6 5 8 4 4 8 5.83
Maurice DeShazo
8 8 4 8 9 6 7.17
Will Furrer
9 9 9 9 8 9 8.83
As expected, Michael Vick finds himself at the top of the list. Vick had the top yards per attempt, as well as attempts per touchdown and winning percentage. He ranked in at least the top three in every category. His brother Marcus, who finished second, also ranked in the top three in each category, but didn't finish first in anything.
Perhaps the two biggest surprises of the group are Al Clark and Jim Druckenmiller. Clark wasn't the most talented guy in the world, but he didn't turn the ball over and had a pretty solid yards per attempt average. Druckenmiller helped Tech to a Sugar Bowl win in his first season as a starter, but he barely completed 50% of his passes, which gave him a low yards per attempt average. His attempts per touchdown average was also low. The main thing that he had going for him, from a statistical standpoint, is winning percentage.
Grant Noel's ranking could also be somewhat of a surprise for those who only remember the five-turnover 2001 Miami game, but Noel held the Tech record for most touchdown passes by a first-year starter until Marcus Vick broke it by one touchdown in 2005. And Marcus Vick had 13 games counting towards his stats, while Noel had just 11. Noel threw for a touchdown and 269 yards against Florida State in the 2001 Gator Bowl, which do not count towards his final statistics.
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DeShazo and Furrer were both better QBs than Glennon...also one thing your numbers don't point out...NONE of the other QBs had the WR talent that Glennon had this year...and all of it was wasted because he couldn't get them the ball...not sure who to blame on that one, the player or the OC...